108: Would You Still Convert to Catholicism?

Yes, the Church is in crisis. But should the current problems discourage conversion?

On this episode of the Art of Catholic, I’m joined by EWTN morning host Matt Swaim in a conversation about Matt’s winding road to Catholicism… and a whole lot more.

What started as a conversion story became an honest discussion of where the Church stands today and how to deal with it.

Matt’s in the thick of all the news on a daily basis because of his radio show. He’s also constantly dealing with potential converts through his work at the Coming Home Network, so his is a very interesting take.

For cradle Catholics, our conversation is a unique look into the Evangelical world. For converts (or potential converts), it’s a stroll down memory lane. But at the end of the day, it’s a clarion call for each of us to take a hard look in the mirror.

God bless and please share this with others!


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094: Unlocking Catholic Secrets of the Dead Sea Scrolls

Featuring Dr. John Bergsma

Discovered in 1946 by a guy throwing rocks into a cave, the Dead Sea Scrolls have been called “the greatest archeological find of the 20th century.”

And they’re totally Catholic!

Join Matthew Leonard and scrolls expert Dr. John Bergsma as they unlock some very illuminating secrets from these famous scrolls.

It’s a conversation that may help fill in some cracks you didn’t even realize were there.

Among other things they’ll cover:

  • What the Scrolls teach us about the Eucharist
  • The mysterious Essenes and Christ’s relationship to them
  • Why Matthew, Mark, and Luke say the Last Supper was on a different day than the Gospel of John…and how to reconcile that difference
  • Why in the world John the Baptist lived in the wilderness eating weird stuff and wearing animal skins
  • How the Scrolls shed light on what books make up the Bible (or don’t)

This is a jam-packed interview that will help you see the story of Scripture in a whole new way!

God bless!


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082: Historical Holiness: How Religious Orders Illumine the Path to Perfection

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Yes, some look like Jedi hippies. Yes, their giant rosaries look like medieval weapons. Yes, many haven’t worn socks in a very long time.

But they’re the real deal.

About whom am I talking? Catholics with a religious vocation. You know…monks, nuns, and such.

And while most of us aren’t called to their life, we should pay very close attention to them.


Because they can show laity the pursuit of holiness in its essential contours. In other words, they can show us the way to heaven.

So in order to get inside the life and mind of the “religious” and see what we can learn, I brought Fr. Gregory Pine, O.P. onto the program. As you’ll see, he’s an extremely sharp guy and explains the deeper things very clearly.

Among other things, we discuss:

  • What are the “evangelical counsels” and how we can live them
  • A fascinating (and brief) history of religious life (perfect for converts and those who need to brush up on their history a little:)
  • What it means to have a truly intentional life
  • How the religious model of life can restore sanity during our current crisis
  • Why religious life is a kind of second baptism
  • The shocking answer to the question, “Does God love some people more than others?”

All that and a whole lot more in this episode of the Art of Catholic podcast.

God bless!


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