070: How Mary Can Save Civilization…again

by Matthew Leonard
by Matthew Leonard

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Have we lost? Because a lot of people think so.

Earlier this year a book came out called The Benedict Option. It’s a runaway bestseller written by a famous former Evangelical named Rod Dreher.

He basically says we’ve lost the culture war and radical change in lifestyle is needed if Christianity is going to survive in the West.

And he’s right…most of the time.

While Dreher’s call for a retreat into a kind quasi-monastic existence rings true on many levels, it misses a key ingredient that can change everything…Mary.

Enter Dr. Carrie Gress.

In this year of the 100th anniversary of the Fatima apparitions, she provides a little different slant…a Marian slant. Her new book “The Marian Option: God’s Solution to a Civilization in Crisis” presents what I think is Dreher’s missing link.

If you don’t recognize the hand of Mary in our past then you can’t understand her pivotal role for our future.

So in this episode, Dr. Gress and I will discuss:

  • What exactly is the Marian Option
  • Why Mary is the “Cultivator of Culture”
  • The fascinating connection between Islam and the apparitions at Guadalupe, Fatima, and Lourdes
  • Why Mariology stopped developing in the East after the Great Schism
  • Why ecumenism without Mary is false ecumenism

It’s a fantastic and illuminating discussion in which I’m betting you’ll learn a few things and gain some deeper insight into this transitional moment in human history.

But as the infomercials say, “That’s not all!”

Because after my conversation with Carrie, the amazing Curtis Mitch will answer a very intriguing and bothersome question on our second installment of Next Level Scripture.

You don’t want to miss it.

God bless!


P.S. If you liked this episode, you’ll probably like these, too:

Episode 055 – Unveiling the 3 Secrets of Fatima

Episode 027 – Part 1 – The (Very) Ancient Origins of Marian Devotion

Episode 028 – Part 2 – The (Very) Ancient Origins of Marian Devotion

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11 Responses

  1. Thank you Matt, Marian episodes are my favorite!

    I have a question – could you please explain how we can say Mary is ‘all-holy’. So far I thought the prefix ‘all’ could only be used for God (all-powerful, all-knowing, etc) since only He is infinite.

    1. Hi Ashwith! Yes, only God is holy in and of himself (Rev 15:4). We become holy by participating in his holiness. Mary participates far more deeply than anyone else because of her role as Mother of God, and subsequently, her Immaculate Conception. She is without sin and therefore is intimately united to God. That’s why the Fathers called her the Ark of the New Covenant. Like the Ark, she was “overshadowed” by the Holy Spirit to be the “all holy” tabernacle of God. In order to carry the 2nd Person of the Trinity in her womb, she had to be a pure, holy vessel (similar to the Ark). So she was created by God to be “all holy” through his grace. God is holy in and of himself. Mary participates in it in a unique way through the grace of God for her particular role. God bless!

  2. yea…the links are fascinating Matthew…connecting us to the heart and mind of God… now we know who we are …true children Mary….hearing and practicing everyday, the Word of God our Father and Jesus our Brother…while embracing the power of the Holy Spirit. Those of us whose faith continues to be watered by your presence in the Church, we prayerfully thank God for you. We love you for your ‘yes’

  3. I previously saw on your website a title concerning why kids stop going to Church. Cannot find it again. Can you help?

  4. Not sure how Carrie is speaking “for” Mary…? (re:another comment)

    Thank you for another great podcast, Matthew! Truly an illuminating and intelligent conversation.

  5. The first time I heard your voice I was hooked. Thank you for this incredible teaching clarification. I have always known that I was home. Meaning being catholic . May God bless you always!

  6. I just listened to the next level Scripture section again to take down notes and this is on Sunday midnight. Mass today morning is going to be a very different experience for me! It reminded me of another verse – Hebrews 10:31 – It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

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